The UNcivilized Podcast

| May 15, 2023

The Wild vs The Domestic - Tom Elsner

Tom Elsner

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For men, there is no greater battle than the one between the wild and the domestic.

As humans, we all struggle with our inner conflicts. Today, we invite you to learn how to feel and deal with them in the best way possible. And to help us better understand this, we have an amazing guest joining us today: Tom Elsner.

In this episode, we talk about the benefits of imagination, learning to feel, and surrendering in order to find answers to our internal struggles.

After listening to this episode, you'll come to understand that sometimes surrendering and allowing ourselves to "die" for a moment—figuratively, of course—can be the best way to start anew and see the world around us with fresh eyes.

Make sure not to miss this episode. Remember, in this battle, you're not alone.


Thomas Elsner, J.D., M.A. is a Zurich trained Jungian Analyst in private practice in Santa Barbara California with over 19 years of clinical experience. A former core faculty professor at Pacifica Graduate Institute, he is a training analyst at the C.G. Jung Study Center of Southern California. Before training as a Jungian analyst, Thomas practiced as an attorney.

Thomas Elsner offers seminars and lectures nationally and internationally on his interests in literature and folklore, alchemy, dreams, active imagination, and intersections between physics and depth psychology.

His book A Flash of Golden Fire: Coleridge and the Alchemical Imagination will soon be published by Texas A&M University.


[4:41] Who is Tom Elsner?

[7:46] Definition of archetypes.

[8:50] Why do men struggle between the wild and the domestic?

[21:05] Working with swinging extremes.

[28:47] What's the best practice for engaging these two energies?

[34:31] The importance of imagination in resolving our internal conflicts.

[38:20] Imagination vs. Fantasy

[40:57] The role of myth in understanding duality.

[1:02:32] Let yourself break.

[1:20:00] Connect with Tom.


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